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- 1833- His father Thomas Andrew of Coupar Angus wrote a Will in which he stipulated:
«i»"...shall pay to my son «b»James Andrew, Weaver in Lochee,«/b» or to his heirs and assignees the sum of «b»Seventy pounds Sterling«/b»,"
...«/i»The second share for the liferent use and behoof of my said son «b»James Andrew«/b» during all«i»
«b»[262]«/b» «/i»all the days of his lifetime and his children in feu and to their heirs and assignees. "
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«/i»In the 1841 Census there is a James Andrew in Lochee listed as a "Flesher" [butcher] aged 30 years [which is about 5 years difference] married to a Margaret. Children listed as David, Ann, James & Charles.«i»
«/i»1851 Scotland Census
about James Andrew
Name: James Andrew
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Cupar, Angus
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Liff and Benvie
Town: Lochee
County: Angus
Address: Church Street
Occupation: Quarrier
ED: 100
Page: 30 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 125
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1851_63
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Andrew 17
Catherine Andrew 8
Charles Andrew 12
James Andrew 50
James Andrew 15
Margaret Andrew 47
William Andrew 20
Source Citation: Parish: Liff and Benvie; ED: 100; Page: 1; Line: 30; Roll: 334; Year: 1851.
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Sent: ?Saturday?, ?March? ?21?, ?2015 ?1?:?13? ?PM
To: veronica@verian.ca
Hi Veronica,
Scotspeople are having another free index only search for 1865, and came across something odd.
Mrs Sprunt,,,, That's Ann Andrew, widow of Robert Sprunt. – That bit is normal.
1865Tenant OccupierMRSSPRUNT DWELLINGHOUSE GROUND FLOOR BURGH OF BROUGHTY FERRY KING STREETMONIFIETHANGUS (FORFAR) COUNTYVR88 / 18 / 249
David Andrews, is David Marshall Andrew, who lived / owned numbers 38 & 40 North Church Street when he died.
Still not sure if this is the same place called "Church Street, Liff Parrish" during the 1841-51 census ???
1865Tenant Occupier ANDREWSDAVIDDWELLING HOUSE NORTH CHURCH STREET WEST SIDELIFF AND BENVIEDUNDEE BURGHVR98 / 16 / 280
1865Owner ANDREWSJAMESDWELLING HOUSE NORTH CHURCH STREET WEST SIDELIFF AND BENVIEDUNDEE BURGHVR98 / 16 / 280
James Andrews ??? That is the odd bit,,, it should be the father of David. – But this James emigrated c.1855 (ten years previous)
,,, it could be the the brother of David. – But this James emigrated with, or near the same year of his father (James) in c.1855.
,,, it could fit being James Andrew snr., he died after this valuation roll, when he died in 1874 he appears to have left no Will.
,,, James jnr. (or James Sprunt Andrew), was old enough, and had the finance to own something. – So it could be either ???.
,,, Old Victorian Gazettes have a, James Andrew, buying up random shares at Sandhurst in gold & mining in 1872-74.
,,, 1875 James bought his Auctioneers Licence at Sandhurst with sons David and Charles forming James Andrew, & Co.
Q. With all the Valuation Rolls you have looked at in the past, do any list the Residence of the Owner/s ??
Some of the (Andrew) Perthshire ones list the Parish, or Town of the Owner , , , but not if Angus are set out the same ??
Anyhow, I had better stop pointing out coincidences.
Kind Regards,
stew
Post Office Dundee Directory vol.1844-45 : LOCHEE DIRECTORY. page 181.
Andrew, James, feuar. Church Street
Post Office Dundee Directory vol.1846-47 : LOCHEE DIRECTORY. page 272.
THE PRINCIPLE INHABITANTS OF LOCHEE.
Andrew, James, feuar. Church Street (Feuar = "Scot's Law" Owner of a plot of land or property in Scotland)
1841; Address: Church Street : Place: Liff & Benvie-Angus
Civil Parish/Ecclesiastical Parish, Village: Liff Dundee Lochee
Surname First name Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANDREW James........M...35..Flesher........Angus (Flesher = Butcher)
ANDREW Margaret.....F...35......................Angus
ANDREW David.........M...13......................Angus
ANDREW Ann.............F.....8......................Angus
ANDREW James........M.....5......................Angus
ANDREW Charles......M.....3......................Angus
Piece: SCT1841/301 Enumeration District: 126 Folio: 4 Page: 7
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Scotland Census 1851; Address: [125] Church Street : Parish of Liff & Benvie.
Village of Lochee : Within the limits of the Parliamentary Burgh of Dundee.
Surname First name Relation Stat Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANDREW James......Head......Mar...M...50...Quarrier.........Coupar Angus
ANDREW Margaret...Wife......Mar....F...47...x.....................Forfarshire-Lochee
ANDREW William......Son.........U.....M..20...Mason...................do.............do...
ANDREW Ann...........Dau.........U.....F...17...x............................do.............do...
ANDREW James.......Son.........--.....M...15...Mason...................do.............do...
ANDREW Charles.....Son.........--.....M...12...Scholar..................do.............do...
ANDREW Catherine..Dau.........--.....F.....8...Scholar..................do.............do..
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1861: "Andrews Land" : North Church Street : Parish Liff : County Forfarshire (Angus)
Registration district Lochee in the Burgh of Dundee : Enumeration district 2
First / Last name Role Marital Sex Age Occupation Birth place .
Elisabeth Andrew.....Wife..Mar...Fem...32..Tenter Wife......Liff, Forfarshire
James Andrew.........Son...Unm..Male..10...........................Liff, Forfarshire
Alexander Andrew...Son...Unm..Male....8...........................Liff, Forfarshire
Jane Andrew...........Dau...Unm..Fem.....5...........................Liff, Forfarshire
Catherine Andrew...Dau......-.....Fem.....0...........................Liff, Forfarshire
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