| Notes |
- The Cape Muster Roll for 1712 lists:
Jacobus van Eede & Regina Christina van Arensdorp
The baptismal register for 1692 has for May 11:
Den 11 Maij aen Stellenbosch een kint gedoopt waer van vader is Jan de Jonker, de moeder Elisabeth, als ghetuijghe stonden Jan Stevenz[e] Botma, ende Sophia van der Bijl, is genaemt Regina.
In Personalia of the Germans at teh Cape an entry for LOOs reads
LOOS
HINRICH (S). - Olfen. Burgher at Drakenstein in 1692, since 1696 at Stellenbosch. ~ Lysbeth Jansz, wid. Jan Andresen of Arensdorp (q.v.). Children: Catharina (21.8.1701) ~ Christoffel Groenewald, Geertruyd (* 1704) ~ (1) 12.12.1723 Adam Albertyn of Delft; (2) Hendrik Lodewyk Wiederhold (see under Wiederhold); (3) 6.6.1734 Johannes Verbeeck (G.R. nr. 993). (Stellenbosch Arch., vol. 1021; V.C. 39, p. 157; Stellenbosch Arch., vol. 603 under 14.4.1704; Test. of 1726 in Stellenbosch Arch., vol. 650: 30.)
Hello Ian,
Sunday, October 15, 2006, 9:27:20 PM, you wrote:
IvZ> de Villiers/Pama has Jacobus van Eeden, second son of the
IvZ> Stamvader Jan Janse van Eeden married to Regina Christina
IvZ> Deetlof. This name or anything close to it (Detlef,
IvZ> Dietlef)does not appear in de Villiers/Pama until later in the
IvZ> 18th century.
I had a look at this problem by checking what records I have copies of
here.
First I checked the baptisms of the two children that De Villiers /
Pama lists for Jacobus van Eden and his wife named as Regina Christina
Deetlof.
Both baptisms give her name just as Regina Christina - no surname.
Church Register - Stellenbosch Congregation, Palmkronieke facsimile CD
Maria Lisabeth, d'Vader Jacobus van Eden, d'Moeder Regina Christina,
getuygen, Ary van Eden, met Maria Rossar, 19 April 1711
Katrina, d'Vader Jacobus van Eden, Moeder Regina Kristina,
getuygen Hendrik Loots met Lijsbeth Jansen, 24 July 1712
There does not seem to be any record of the marriage which presumably
took place about 1710 to judge from the baptismal date of the first
child. The marriage register of Drakenstein does not survive from this
period so there is nothing unusual in this.
To complicate matters further, the muster roll at the end of 1711
(VC49) lists them as:
Jacobus van Eeden & Regina Claasina van Arentsdorp
(this is of course a copy of a copy - see my notes here:
«u»<http://www.eggsa.org/transcriptions/monsterrollen/mr_intro.htm>«/u»
But, a deceased estate account (boedelrekening) does exist for the
couple (Cape Archives, MOOC 13/1/1, 62, date 1715).
This lists the couple as:
wijlen Jacobus van Eeden en desselfs huijsvrouw Regi[na ]Jonkers,
the late Jacobus van Eeden and his wife Regina Jonkers
I checked further and Jan Andriessen, called de Jonker, was married to
Lijsbet or Elisabeth Jans. He died circa 1698 and she remarried
Hendrik Loots. You will notice that this couple are the witnesses at
the baptism of the second child of Jacobus van Eden and Regina
Christina.
This seems to indicate pretty surely that Regina was the daughter of
Jan de Jonker.
I have put the family with the evidence I collected here:
«u»<http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/lombard/I405.html>«/u»
Cheers,
Richard
--
Richard Ball,
Norfolk, England
evidence from Richard Ball
1 Church Register - Stellenbosch Congregation, Consulted both as microfilm at the LDS and Palmkronieke facsimile, also Cape Archives verbatim copies, originals at the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerk Argief, Stellenbosch, G2 4/1, VC 639
baptisms, page 62, 1711
Maria Lisabeth, d'Vader Jacobus van Eden, d'Moeder Regina Christina, getuygen, Ary van Eden, met Maria Rossar, 19 April 1711
Estate Accounts - Van Eden, Jacobus and Regina Jonkers - 1713, dated 15th December 1715, Cape Archives, MOOC 13/1/1, 62
Generale Reeke. van den boedel en Goe[dere] naarggelaen en met 'er dood ontruijmt bij wijlen Jacobus van Eeden en desselfs huijsvrouw Regi[na ]Jonkers, ten voordeele van hare twee minderjarige nageleatene kinderen Maria en Geertruij van Eeden.
- de Villiers & Pama gives her name as Regina Christina Deetlof, but there is no other "Deetlof" listed.
The Cape Muster Roll for 1712 lists:
«i»Jacobus van Eede & Regina Christina van Arensdorp«/i»
The baptismal register for 1692 has for May 11:
«i»Den 11 Maij aen Stellenbosch een kint gedoopt waer van vader is Jan de Jonker, de moeder Elisabeth, als ghetuijghe stonden Jan Stevenz[e] Botma, ende Sophia van der Bijl, is genaemt Regina.
«/i»In Personalia of the Germans at the Cape under LOOS is listed«i»
LOOS
HINRICH (S). - Olfen. Burgher at Drakenstein in 1692, since 1696 at Stellenbosch. ~ Lysbeth Jansz, wid. Jan Andresen of Arensdorp (q.v.). Children: Catharina (21.8.1701) ~ Christoffel Groenewald, Geertruyd (* 1704) ~ (1) 12.12.1723 Adam Albertyn of Delft; (2) Hendrik Lodewyk Wiederhold (see under Wiederhold); (3) 6.6.1734 Johannes Verbeeck (G.R. nr. 993). (Stellenbosch Arch., vol. 1021; V.C. 39, p. 157; Stellenbosch Arch., vol. 603 under 14.4.1704; Test. of 1726 in Stellenbosch Arch., vol. 650: 30.)
«/i»So Jan Andresen was apparently also know as Jan van Arensdorp
Evidence for her early death was provided by Richard Ball in an email:
«i»4 Malan, O.G. - Verlore Dokumentasie oor die Gemeente Stellenbosch van 1689 tot 1725, In: Capesis, issue no. 2, 2002
1713, burial fee
Jacobus van Eden en desselvs vrouw f.12
«/i»1713 was the time of the Smallpox epidemic which perhaps carried them both off?
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