Judith Nel

Judith Nel[1]

Female 1698 -


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  • Name Judith Nel 
    Christening 3 Aug 1698  [1
    Gender Female 
    Person ID I8822  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 3 Apr 2020 

    Father Guillaume Nel,   b. Abt 1663, Rouen,Normandy, Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Jeanne la Batte,   b. 1663, Saumur,Anjou, Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage 13 May 1685  Amsterdam, Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3
    Family ID F302712860  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Wilhelm Odendaal   d. 19 Jan 1732 
    Marriage 9 Nov 1714  [4, 5
    • Stellenbosch Marriages
      1714
      11 9br (November) Willem Odendaal Wedr., met Judith Nel van
      Cabo jongedr.

      Hello Dorothy,

      WM> The date of birth I have came from the article I mentioned, along
      WM> with the dates of birth of the other children. Also the marriage
      WM> date of 11 Nov. 1717
      WM> It seems he must have misread the year in which the marriage took
      WM> place? I must say, this article was written with authority!

      I can't find this article in the FAMILIA 2009 No. 1 ??

      I have written about this one before. I originally consulted the LDS
      microfilm version of the Stellenbosch marriage register and took my
      info for various marriages from there.

      Later I obtained a copy of the same registers that had been
      photocopied in the 1980s and now live in the Cape and Pretoria
      archives. The 1714 marriage page in the LDS copy (which does not bear
      any year date on it at all as it runs from May to November) has been
      bound between a page ending with 1717 June and a page starting with
      1717 September.

      If this page is in fact 1714 (as in the LDS film and as I believe to
      be the case) a lot of marriages fall into the correct
      date, rather than being a few years later than the first children -
      Van Zyl, De Vries, Odendaal. As the Archives copies are bound the page
      with the date 1714 runs from Jan to April at the bottom of the page,
      and the next page starts 1715.

      I hope that is not too confusing. In short, the 1714 May to November
      seem to have been misbound as 1717 in the Archives copy and misled a
      good number of poeple.

      WM> I see on MOOC8/7.1a - Willem Odendaal (jnr - my brackets) "van den
      WM> landbouwer Jan Odendaal rd:s208.16 over soveel denselven in seeven termijnen
      WM> moet betaalen, sijde 't geen den overleeden Willem Odendaal over d'
      WM> erfportie van wijlen sijn moeder Judith Nel wed:e Willem Odendaal d'
      WM> oude........) referring to Judith NEL as his mother.

      Yes, seems pretty good - Judith Nel's wills would be good to read
      though. The ones she made as a widow are most likely to mention the
      names of her children.


      Cheers,

      Richard


    Children 
     1. Adriaan Izaak Odendaal,   c. 29 Jun 1732
     2. Gerrit Odendaal,   c. 26 Feb 1730
     3. Hendricus Johannes Odendaal,   c. 28 Nov 1723
     4. Johannes Odendaal,   c. 14 Apr 1720
     5. Judith Odendaal,   c. 27 Apr 1727
    Family ID F302712928  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 3 Apr 2020 

  • Sources 
    1. [S57] de Villiers, C.C., revised by Pama, C., Genealogies of Old South African Families, (Published A.A Balkema, Cape Town, 1981 ISBN 0-86961-136-4), Entry for Nel (Reliability: 3).

    2. [S65] M. Boucher, French Speakers at the Cape, (Pretoria: University of South Africa, 1981.), 124. (Reliability: 3).

    3. [S65] M. Boucher, French Speakers at the Cape, (Pretoria: University of South Africa, 1981.).

    4. [S85] email from Richard Ball to Roots web, (March 8, 2010).

    5. [S57] de Villiers, C.C., revised by Pama, C., Genealogies of Old South African Families, (Published A.A Balkema, Cape Town, 1981 ISBN 0-86961-136-4), Entry for Odendaal (Reliability: 3).