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Janet Wannan

Janet Wannan

Female Abt 1806 - 1884  (78 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Janet Wannan was born about 1806 in Perth,Perthshire,Scotland.,; died in 1884 in Forgan,Fife,Scotland.,.

    Family/Spouse: Robert Honeyman. Robert was born about 1805 in Largo,Fife,Scotland.,; died about 1877 in Forgan,Fife,Scotland.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Anne Wannan Honeyman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 6 Jul 1831 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died on 17 Sep 1900 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.
    2. 3. Georgina Wannan Honeyman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Jul 1833; died on 10 Dec 1897 in Mount Pleasant,,,Coupar Angus,Scotland.
    3. 4. Jessie Wannan Honeyman  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Mar 1836 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.
    4. 5. Janet Honeyman  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1836.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Anne Wannan Honeyman Descendancy chart to this point (1.Janet1) was born on 6 Jul 1831 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died on 17 Sep 1900 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.

    Anne married James Lundie on 6 Dec 1853 in St Vigeans,Angus,Scotland.,. James (son of John Lundie and Janet "Jesse" Mill) was born on 29 Jun 1814 in St Vigeans,Angus,Scotland.,; died on 19 Nov 1868 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; was buried about 1868 in Arbroath,Angus,Scotland.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Jessie Wannan Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 24 Dec 1854 in Arbroath,Forfarshire,Scotland.,; died on 19 Jul 1937 in Dulwich,South Australia,Australia.,.
    2. 7. Anne Honeyman Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 29 Mar 1856 in Arbroath,Forfarshire,Scotland.,; died on 30 May 1915 in Assiniboia,,Manitoba,Canada.
    3. 8. John "Jack" Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 14 Dec 1857 in Arbroath,Forfarshire,Scotland.,; died on 9 Feb 1931 in New York,New York,United States of America.,; was buried in Ashes Buried In Oakland Cemetery,Dallas,Texas,.
    4. 9. Robert Honeyman Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1860 in Arbroath,Forfarshire,Scotland.,; died on 23 Nov 1955 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.
    5. 10. James Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 15 Oct 1861 in Arbroath,Angus,Scotland.,; died about 1864 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.
    6. 11. George Watson Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 29 Dec 1863 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died about 1864 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.
    7. 12. William Honeyman Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1865 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died on 19 Jan 1951 in Rillmore,,Allegan,Michigan,USA.; was buried on 22 Jan 1951 in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA.
    8. 13. Georgina Wannan Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 8 Aug 1867 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died on 31 Jul 1945 in Perponda,,,So. Australia,.

  2. 3.  Georgina Wannan Honeyman Descendancy chart to this point (1.Janet1) was born on 23 Jul 1833; died on 10 Dec 1897 in Mount Pleasant,,,Coupar Angus,Scotland.

    Georgina married John Watson on 19 Feb 1856 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. David Watson  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 11 Jul 1857 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.
    2. 15. Jessie Watson  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 Dec 1858 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.

    Georgina married James Logie in 1886 in Hawick,Roxbh Shire,Scotland.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 4.  Jessie Wannan Honeyman Descendancy chart to this point (1.Janet1) was born on 23 Mar 1836 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.

  4. 5.  Janet Honeyman Descendancy chart to this point (1.Janet1) was born about 1836.


Generation: 3

  1. 6.  Jessie Wannan Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 24 Dec 1854 in Arbroath,Forfarshire,Scotland.,; died on 19 Jul 1937 in Dulwich,South Australia,Australia.,.

    Jessie married Rev George Davidson, D.D. about Jul 1884 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,. George was born about 1855 in Dundee,Forfarshire,Scotland.,; died on 15 Jul 1936 in Dulwich,South Australia,Australia.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. George Lundie Davidson  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 17. Daniel "Dan" McLaren Davidson  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1886 in ,,Australia.,.
    3. 18. David Davidson  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1886 in Hawick,Roxbh Shire,Scotland.,.
    4. 19. James Lundie Davidson  Descendancy chart to this point was born cal 1892 in Hawick,Roxbh Shire,Scotland.,; died on 14 Oct 1956 in Frankston,Victoria,Australia.,.

  2. 7.  Anne Honeyman Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 29 Mar 1856 in Arbroath,Forfarshire,Scotland.,; died on 30 May 1915 in Assiniboia,,Manitoba,Canada.

    Anne married Thomas Lyall about 1879 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,. Thomas (son of Alexander Lyall and Marjory) was born about 1851 in Montrose,Angus,Scotland.,; died about 1905 in Montrose,Angus,Scotland.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. Anne Lyall  Descendancy chart to this point died on (Died In Infancy).
    2. 21. David Watson Lyall  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1880 in Montrose,Forfarshire,Scotland.,.
    3. 22. Rhoda Lyall  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1882 in Montrose,Forfarshire,Scotland.,.
    4. 23. Frank Lyall  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1883 in Montrose,Forfarshire,Scotland.,.
    5. 24. Maurice Lyall  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1886 in Montrose,Angus,Scotland.,; died after 1947 in Winnipeg,Manitoba,Canada.,.

  3. 8.  John "Jack" Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 14 Dec 1857 in Arbroath,Forfarshire,Scotland.,; died on 9 Feb 1931 in New York,New York,United States of America.,; was buried in Ashes Buried In Oakland Cemetery,Dallas,Texas,.

    Family/Spouse: Iona Oakley Gorham. Iona was born in 1871 in Galvaston,Texas,United States.,; died about 1925 in ,,United States of America.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 25. Maude Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1897 in ,Missouri,United States of America.,.
    2. 26. Belle Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1898 in ,Missouri,United States of America.,.

    Family/Spouse: Alice Eddy. Alice was born on 24 Mar 1878 in Jonesville,,,Michigan,USA.. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 9.  Robert Honeyman Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born about 1860 in Arbroath,Forfarshire,Scotland.,; died on 23 Nov 1955 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.

    Robert married Marjory Helen Evan Howe about 1888 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,. Marjory was born about 1858 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died about 1938 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 27. Josephine Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point died about 1946 in ,,Australia.,.
    2. 28. William "Willie" Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point died about 1952 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA.
    3. 29. James "Jim" Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1890 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died about 1916 in ,,France.,.
    4. 30. Wilfred Honeyman Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 12 Sep 1890 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died on 1 Jul 1969 in Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland.,.

  5. 10.  James Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 15 Oct 1861 in Arbroath,Angus,Scotland.,; died about 1864 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.

  6. 11.  George Watson Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 29 Dec 1863 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died about 1864 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.

  7. 12.  William Honeyman Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born about 1865 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died on 19 Jan 1951 in Rillmore,,Allegan,Michigan,USA.; was buried on 22 Jan 1951 in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA.

    William married Rhoda Annette (Nettie) Butler on 25 Jan 1888 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA. Rhoda (daughter of Henry Bulter) was born on 7 Jun 1868 in London,Middlesex,England.,; died on 12 May 1942 in Holland,,,MI,USA; was buried in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 31. Elizabeth Henrietta Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1889 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA; was buried in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA.
    2. 32. John "Jack" Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 8 Oct 1890 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 27 Jan 1955 in South Miami,,,FL,USA.
    3. 33. Watson Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Jul 1892 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 11 Feb 1968 in Holland Community Hosp,Holland,Ottawa County,MI,USA.; was buried on 14 Feb 1968 in Pilgrim Home Cemt Holland Ottawa MI,.
    4. 34. Anna Rhoda Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 16 Jan 1895 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 15 Mar 1986 in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA; was buried in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA.
    5. 35. Jessie Josephine Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 15 Apr 1898 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 24 Jul 1922 in Holland,,Ottawa,Michigan,USA.; was buried in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA.
    6. 36. Frances Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 7 Jan 1901 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 1 Mar 1986 in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA; was buried in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA.
    7. 37. William George Lundie, Jnr  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 9 Jan 1905 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 21 Apr 1982 in Holland,,Ottawa,Michigan,USA.; was buried on 23 Apr 1982 in Holland,,Ottawa,Michigan,USA..
    8. 38. Mae Margaret Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 26 Jul 1908 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 11 Feb 1997 in Holland Comm Hos,,Holland,MI,USA; was buried on 14 Feb 1997 in Pilgrim Home Cem,,Holland,MI,USA.

  8. 13.  Georgina Wannan Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 8 Aug 1867 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died on 31 Jul 1945 in Perponda,,,So. Australia,.

  9. 14.  David Watson Descendancy chart to this point (3.Georgina2, 1.Janet1) was born on 11 Jul 1857 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.

  10. 15.  Jessie Watson Descendancy chart to this point (3.Georgina2, 1.Janet1) was born on 25 Dec 1858 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,.


Generation: 4

  1. 16.  George Lundie Davidson Descendancy chart to this point (6.Jessie3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1)

    George married Winnifred Viner about 1920. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 17.  Daniel "Dan" McLaren Davidson Descendancy chart to this point (6.Jessie3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born about 1886 in ,,Australia.,.

    Daniel married Lucy Mildred Tucker on 11 Mar 1911 in Adelaide,South Australia,Australia.,, and was divorced on 11 Apr 1930. Lucy (daughter of Robert Charles Tucker) was born about 1886. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 39. Margaret Mclaren Davidson  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 18 Jul 1912 in Adelaide,South Australia,Australia.,.
    2. 40. Kathrine Wayte Davidson  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 4 Mar 1914 in Adelaide,South Australia,Australia.,.

  3. 18.  David Davidson Descendancy chart to this point (6.Jessie3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born about 1886 in Hawick,Roxbh Shire,Scotland.,.

  4. 19.  James Lundie Davidson Descendancy chart to this point (6.Jessie3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born cal 1892 in Hawick,Roxbh Shire,Scotland.,; died on 14 Oct 1956 in Frankston,Victoria,Australia.,.

    James married Pearl Morgan on 23 Nov 1916 in Rose Park,South Australia. Australia.,. Pearl was born about 1888; died on 31 Dec 1953 in Frankston,Victoria,Australia.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  5. 20.  Anne Lyall Descendancy chart to this point (7.Anne3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) died on (Died In Infancy).

  6. 21.  David Watson Lyall Descendancy chart to this point (7.Anne3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born about 1880 in Montrose,Forfarshire,Scotland.,.

    Family/Spouse: Mabel. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  7. 22.  Rhoda Lyall Descendancy chart to this point (7.Anne3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born about 1882 in Montrose,Forfarshire,Scotland.,.

    Rhoda married William James Purdy on 22 Sep 1912 in Winnipeg,Manitoba,Canada.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 23.  Frank Lyall Descendancy chart to this point (7.Anne3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born about 1883 in Montrose,Forfarshire,Scotland.,.

  9. 24.  Maurice Lyall Descendancy chart to this point (7.Anne3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born about 1886 in Montrose,Angus,Scotland.,; died after 1947 in Winnipeg,Manitoba,Canada.,.

    Family/Spouse: Jessie Greenwood. Jessie was born on 26 Dec 1886 in London,,City of London,Greater London,England; died about 1968 in Winnipeg,Greater Winnipeg,Manitoba,Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 41. Louise Lyall  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 30 Aug 1917 in Winnipeg Man,,,Canada; died on 14 Oct 2005.

    Family/Spouse: Jessie Greenwood. Jessie was born on 26 Dec 1886 in London,,City of London,Greater London,England; died about 1968 in Winnipeg,Greater Winnipeg,Manitoba,Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Maurice married Catherine Fyvie on 18 Oct 1913 in Winnipeg,Manitoba,Canada.,. Catherine (daughter of John Fyvie and Jane Mackie Gall Fyvie) was born about 1888; died on 15 Jan 1919 in Winnipeg,Manitoba,Canada.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 42. David Fyvie Lyall  Descendancy chart to this point died on 4 Jan 1917 in Winnipeg,Manitoba,Canada.,.

  10. 25.  Maude Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (8.John3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born about 1897 in ,Missouri,United States of America.,.

  11. 26.  Belle Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (8.John3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born about 1898 in ,Missouri,United States of America.,.

  12. 27.  Josephine Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (9.Robert3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) died about 1946 in ,,Australia.,.

  13. 28.  William "Willie" Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (9.Robert3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) died about 1952 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA.

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 43. John Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 44. Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point died about 1922 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA.

  14. 29.  James "Jim" Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (9.Robert3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born about 1890 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died about 1916 in ,,France.,.

    James married Constance Nicol Stirton in 1916 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 45. Robert Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1916.

  15. 30.  Wilfred Honeyman Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (9.Robert3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 12 Sep 1890 in Dundee,Angus,Scotland.,; died on 1 Jul 1969 in Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland.,.

    Wilfred married Mabel Mary Dunn MudieLeith,Midlothian,Scotland.,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 46. Living  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 47. Living  Descendancy chart to this point

  16. 31.  Elizabeth Henrietta Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (12.William3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born in 1889 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA; was buried in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA.

    Elizabeth married Frederick Henry C. Jordan about 1912 in Chicago,,Cook,Illinois,USA. Frederick was born about 1885 in ,,,Illinois,U.S.A.; died in Nov 1951 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 48. Mabel Louise Jordan  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 26 Jan 1912 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA.
    2. 49. Frederick D Jordan  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 May 1914 in ,,,Illinois,U.S.A.; died on 26 Dec 1986 in ,,France.,.
    3. 50. Frances (Pat) Jordan  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 17 Mar 1926 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 3 Oct 1994 in Beckley,,,West Virginia,USA.
    4. 51. Jean Jordan  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 17 Jul 1927 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 29 Dec 2004 in Evergreen Park,,Cook County,Illinois,USA..

  17. 32.  John "Jack" Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (12.William3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 8 Oct 1890 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 27 Jan 1955 in South Miami,,,FL,USA.

    Family/Spouse: Alice L. Mills. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  18. 33.  Watson Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (12.William3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 23 Jul 1892 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 11 Feb 1968 in Holland Community Hosp,Holland,Ottawa County,MI,USA.; was buried on 14 Feb 1968 in Pilgrim Home Cemt Holland Ottawa MI,.

    Watson married Myrtle Mary Levandowski about 1920 in ,,United States of America.,. Myrtle (daughter of Ernest Levandowski and Agnes) was born on 14 Jun 1902 in ,,Brown County,Wisconsin,USA.; died on 31 Oct 1980 in Holland,,Ottawa,Michigan,USA.; was buried on 31 Oct 1980 in Holland,,Ottawa,Michigan,USA.. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 52. Elaine Mae Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Mar 1922 in Holland,,Ottawa,Michigan,USA.; was christened in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA; died on 1 Mar 1986 in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA; was buried on 4 Mar 1986 in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA.
    2. 53. Irene Annette Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 7 Apr 1923 in Holland,,Ottawa,Michigan,USA.; died before 2007.
    3. 54. William J. "Bill" Lundie  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 12 Dec 1925 in Holland,,Ottawa,Michigan,USA.; died on 3 Dec 2012 in Holland,Ottawa Co. MI USA,.
    4. 55. Living  Descendancy chart to this point

  19. 34.  Anna Rhoda Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (12.William3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 16 Jan 1895 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 15 Mar 1986 in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA; was buried in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA.

    Family/Spouse: William O. REED. William was born on 2 Jun 1889; died on 9 Aug 1963 in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA; was buried in Pilgrim Home Cem,,Holland,MI,USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 56. Warren O. REED  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1922; died on 20 Jul 1940 in ,,Ottawa,MI,USA; was buried in Pilgrim Home Cem,,Holland,MI,USA.
    2. 57. Living  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 58. Living  Descendancy chart to this point

  20. 35.  Jessie Josephine Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (12.William3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 15 Apr 1898 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 24 Jul 1922 in Holland,,Ottawa,Michigan,USA.; was buried in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA.

  21. 36.  Frances Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (12.William3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 7 Jan 1901 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 1 Mar 1986 in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA; was buried in Holland,,Ottawa,MI,USA.

  22. 37.  William George Lundie, Jnr Descendancy chart to this point (12.William3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 9 Jan 1905 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 21 Apr 1982 in Holland,,Ottawa,Michigan,USA.; was buried on 23 Apr 1982 in Holland,,Ottawa,Michigan,USA..

  23. 38.  Mae Margaret Lundie Descendancy chart to this point (12.William3, 2.Anne2, 1.Janet1) was born on 26 Jul 1908 in Chicago,,Cook County,Illinois,USA; died on 11 Feb 1997 in Holland Comm Hos,,Holland,MI,USA; was buried on 14 Feb 1997 in Pilgrim Home Cem,,Holland,MI,USA.


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